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Honest Argument: Liberals believe individuals have a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate
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Liberals believe individuals have a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate

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Liberals believe individuals have a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate  Liberals believe individuals have a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate
       Liberals have and continue to champion expansion of the franchise  Liberals have and continue to champion expansion of the franchise
       They believe that engagement and vigilance safeguard freedom  They believe that engagement and vigilance safeguard freedom
       Perhaps "responsibility" goes too far  Perhaps "responsibility" goes too far
              Freedom Isn't Free  Freedom Isn't Free

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Perhaps "responsibility" goes too far.


I think saying people have a right to participate is completely consistent to a liberal point of view, but saying that people have a responsibility is going too far, not very liberal and not a realistic possibility.

Comment by: timcgill At: 2006-11-03 00:00:19



I added a "too far" assertion node

and countered it with a "Freedom isn't free" assertion node

Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2006-11-03 15:09:21



Re: node: Perhaps 'responsibility' goes too far

I find nothing, in my long years of study and practice of affirming classic and practical statements of rights and responsibilities in a liberal society, that would indicate that a participating individual has no responsibilities in that society. In every social contract there is a condition of participation within a minimal set of rules or there is anarchy. Even anarchist have a minimal social contract.

It is therefore incumbent in the construct of liberal governance to expect that there are responsibilities that come with the rights therein. Until recent times, the balance of rights and responsibilities in liberal governance swung in an arch of interpretation in the US between Conservatism of the right and Liberalism of the left. There has been a testing of that in this last six years and we have seen that actions and crimes have arisen out of a mind set that in absence of clear responsibilities at the highest levels of our business and governmental functioning.

I must affirm that to enjoy the rights of any social contract, one must be attentive, intelligent, reasonable and responsible to the limits of their capability.

Comment by: Lantern Bearer At: 2006-11-18 09:46:35



Re: node: Perhaps 'responsibility' goes too far

I find nothing, in my long years of study and practice of affirming classic and practical statements of rights and responsibilities in a liberal society, that would indicate that a participating individual has no responsibilities in that society. In every social contract there is a condition of participation within a minimal set of rules or there is anarchy. Even anarchist have a minimal social contract.

It is therefore incumbent in the construct of liberal governance to expect that there are responsibilities that come with the rights therein. Until recent times, the balance of rights and responsibilities in liberal governance swung in an arch of interpretation in the US between Conservatism of the right and Liberalism of the left. There has been a testing of that in this last six years and we have seen that actions and crimes have arisen out of a mind set that in absence of clear responsibilities at the highest levels of our business and governmental functioning.

I must affirm that to enjoy the rights of any social contract, one must be attentive, intelligent, reasonable and responsible to the limits of their capability.

Comment by: Lantern Bearer At: 2006-11-18 09:52:45



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