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Honest Argument: Peace protests are naive and ineffective
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Peace protests are naive and ineffective

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Peace protests are naive and ineffective  Peace protests are naive and ineffective
       Some people only understand and respond to violence  Some people only understand and respond to violence
       Peace protesters rarely distinguish the morality of individual wars  Peace protesters rarely distinguish the morality of individual wars
       The modern peace protest has become a freakshow  The modern peace protest has become a freakshow
              People promoting their own pet issues  People promoting their own pet issues
              Vandalism and violence  Vandalism and violence
              More about the 'scene' than the war  More about the 'scene' than the war
              No sense of restraint  No sense of restraint
       Gandhi's protests were effective  Gandhi's protests were effective
              Gandhi protested for independence, not against a war  Gandhi protested for independence, not against a war
                     Necessary focus to protests  Necessary focus to protests
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Gandhi's protests worked

Gandhi lead millions in India ultimately driving out the British

Comment by: coolgeek At: 2006-11-09 21:03:25



Re: node: The modern peace protest has become a freakshow

There's three separate arguments here. They should be separated out, so support or refutation can be appropriately ascribed.

Comment by: daniel At: 2006-11-10 14:40:44



Re: node: Peace protesters rarely distinguish the morality of in

Regardless of whether the wars mentioned in this node are justified, citing evidence that there are wars which are good, just or necessary doesn't bolster the assertions that:

1)Peace protests are naive
2) Peace protests are ineffective

Nor does asserting that there are just and good wars bolster the assertion that

3) Peace protesters rarely distinguish the morality of individual wars.


Comment by: daniel At: 2006-11-10 14:53:42



Naive and Ineffective

This argument would likely flow better if its central thesis were broken down into its two components.

There should be a node for the assertion of Naiveté and one for the assertion of Ineffectiveness.

Comment by: daniel At: 2006-11-10 14:58:03



Re: comment: Re: node: The modern peace protest has become a fre

The first two assertions support the claim that protests are naive, and the third supports the claim that they are ineffective.

Please feel free to counter any or all of the assertions, and I'll include your points in the diagram

Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2006-11-11 12:05:38



Re: comment: Re: node: Peace protesters rarely distinguish the m

I don't think that you're reading this correctly. The three supporting assertions (green blocks) support the thesis (black block. They do not relate to each other in any way other than that they share the same parent.

Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2006-11-11 12:09:05



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