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Honest Argument: History has shown liberals to be the greatest suppressors of individual power
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History has shown liberals to be the greatest suppressors of individual power

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History has shown liberals to be the greatest suppressors of individual power  History has shown liberals to be the greatest suppressors of individual power
       Communism and Socialism suppressed individual power  Communism and Socialism suppressed individual power
              Communism is not a liberal political philosophy  Communism is not a liberal political philosophy
                     Communism is the quintesential liberal philosophy  Communism is the quintesential liberal philosophy
                            Communism is socialism, not liberalism  Communism is socialism, not liberalism
                                   Liberalism  Liberalism
              Socialism is not a liberal political philosophy  Socialism is not a liberal political philosophy
                     Socialism is a strong liberal political philosophy  Socialism is a strong liberal political philosophy
                            socialism is not liberalism  socialism is not liberalism
                                   Liberalism is...  Liberalism is...
                                   Socialism is liberalism  Socialism is liberalism
              Communism is not equivalent to liberalism  Communism is not equivalent to liberalism
                     Regardless  Regardless
       Conservatives responsible for most individually repressive U.S. policies  Conservatives responsible for most individually repressive U.S. policies
              The War on Drugs is a conservative Republican policy  The War on Drugs is a conservative Republican policy
                     Regular use of militarized tactics in prosecution of War on Drugs  Regular use of militarized tactics in prosecution of War on Drugs
                     Federalism disparaged in prosecution of War of Drugs  Federalism disparaged in prosecution of War of Drugs
                     The War on Drugs is merely enforcement of existing law  The War on Drugs is merely enforcement of existing law
                            Those laws deprive consenting adults of freedom  Those laws deprive consenting adults of freedom
              The War On Terror is a conservative Republican policy  The War On Terror is a conservative Republican policy
                     Bush administration used War on Terror to alter the balance of powers  Bush administration used War on Terror to alter the balance of powers
                            Bush administration claims limitless executive power  Bush administration claims limitless executive power
                            Bush administration provided advance immunization for violations of law  Bush administration provided advance immunization for violations of law
                            Conservatives seek to preclude judicial review  Conservatives seek to preclude judicial review
                     Bush administration overseen most far-reaching surveillance system  Bush administration overseen most far-reaching surveillance system
              Bush administration misused DoJ to advance GOP interests  Bush administration misused DoJ to advance GOP interests
              Conservatives are hostile to the very existence of homosexuals  Conservatives are hostile to the very existence of homosexuals
                     Conservatives oppose civil rights protections for homosexuals  Conservatives oppose civil rights protections for homosexuals
                     Conservatives oppose domestic partnerships and same-sex marriage  Conservatives oppose domestic partnerships and same-sex marriage
              Conservatives have long opposed civil rights  Conservatives have long opposed civil rights
              Conservatives have long opposed women's rights  Conservatives have long opposed women's rights
                     Conservatives are hostile to female sexuality  Conservatives are hostile to female sexuality
              GOP engaged in campaign of vote and voter suppression  GOP engaged in campaign of vote and voter suppression
       Liberals do not suppress an individual right to worship  Liberals do not suppress an individual right to worship
              Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion  Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion
              Liberals believe in all or nothing approach to religion in public sphere  Liberals believe in all or nothing approach to religion in public sphere
       Welfare promoted negative qualities by increasing reliance on government  Welfare promoted negative qualities by increasing reliance on government
              This was an unintended consequence  This was an unintended consequence
       Liberals use the courts to impose their will  Liberals use the courts to impose their will
              Courts are open, argument-based forums  Courts are open, argument-based forums
                     Courts frequently succumb to bias  Courts frequently succumb to bias
                            Bias exists on both sides  Bias exists on both sides
                                   Bias tends to balance over time  Bias tends to balance over time
                                          The Courts have moved rightward over the last 40 years  The Courts have moved rightward over the last 40 years
                                                 Republicans have made majority of recent appointments  Republicans have made majority of recent appointments
                                                 Rise of Federalist Society in vetting Federal judges  Rise of Federalist Society in vetting Federal judges
                                                 Republicans exerted great control over Clinton appointments  Republicans exerted great control over Clinton appointments
       Liberal social policies impose artificial diversity  Liberal social policies impose artificial diversity
              Imposed artificial diversity deprives freedom of association  Imposed artificial diversity deprives freedom of association
                     This argues a non-existent freedom of intolerance  This argues a non-existent freedom of intolerance
              Imposed artificial diversity results in homogenization  Imposed artificial diversity results in homogenization
              Exclusion is proscribed by anti-discrimination statutes  Exclusion is proscribed by anti-discrimination statutes
              Exclusion contrary to U.S. Declaration of Independence  Exclusion contrary to U.S. Declaration of Independence

Comments:




Re: node: History has shown liberals to be the greatest suppress

J-luck -

you need to support this - "liberalism, at times, has militantly suppressed popular culture in favor of progressive ideas."

Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2008-08-12 20:17:59



Definition

I think this needs an explicit definition of "liberals" and "liberalism" in the thesis.

Comment by: geniusiknowit At: 2008-08-16 17:01:36



Re: node: Tends not to balance over time

"Shown by consistent progression of progressive ideas supported by courts over time."

This is the kind of simplistic denial that exasperates me.

I added support for the "tends to balance" and removed your node

Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2008-08-21 20:01:42



Re: comment: Tends not to balance over time

I'm sorry that common sense exasperates you. I hope we can work through this together =)

Again, I thought this was a given.

Either tommorrow or the day after I'll restate my assertion point, with at the very least 3 citations of significant law, showing a movement towards liberal trend in the courts. Most likely, I will provide far, far more than that.

Comment by: J-Luck At: 2008-08-21 21:59:30



Re: comment: Tends not to balance over time

I'm just asking that if you create a node that says, essentially, "no, it's not", that you do more to say why it's not than restating your original point.



Comment by: Ulysses Berman At: 2008-08-23 17:36:49



Liberal 1 side

The problem with their way of thinking is they only stand behind those that belief as they do. Their current cry is associations does not matter. Let me ask the question that was posed to Bill Clinton, what would happen if John McCain was a known associate of David Duke?

Comment by: alice At: 2008-10-07 11:25:38



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